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	<title>Comments on: Episode 70: Hindenburg Mystery</title>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 20:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also wanted to mention about OTHER airship disasters.

Other airships such as the R-101, the Roma, or the World War I Bomber Zeppelins, burned similarly to the Hindenburg. They definitely weren&#039;t painted with this sort of doping compound but burned because of hydrogen.

Yes the Hindenburg&#039;s back broke, but that was because the gas in the rear had ignited but the bow still had lift. The fire did not spread cell-by-cell though. In fact, one gas cell only burned when the Hindenburg hit the ground. The fire spread by the axial catwalk, which was like a chimney. It channeled towards the front of the airship where the fire burst out of the hose. The Mythbusters experiment shows fire exiting out of the nose only with a hydrogen explosion. Had it just been paint, the fire would not have spread towards the nose because it would not be able to channel through the axial catwalk.

So even with reconsidering the experiment, I&#039;d say the myth is still busted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also wanted to mention about OTHER airship disasters.</p>
<p>Other airships such as the R-101, the Roma, or the World War I Bomber Zeppelins, burned similarly to the Hindenburg. They definitely weren&#8217;t painted with this sort of doping compound but burned because of hydrogen.</p>
<p>Yes the Hindenburg&#8217;s back broke, but that was because the gas in the rear had ignited but the bow still had lift. The fire did not spread cell-by-cell though. In fact, one gas cell only burned when the Hindenburg hit the ground. The fire spread by the axial catwalk, which was like a chimney. It channeled towards the front of the airship where the fire burst out of the hose. The Mythbusters experiment shows fire exiting out of the nose only with a hydrogen explosion. Had it just been paint, the fire would not have spread towards the nose because it would not be able to channel through the axial catwalk.</p>
<p>So even with reconsidering the experiment, I&#8217;d say the myth is still busted.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode70/comment-page-1#comment-7723</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hindenburg:

this myth is definitely not busted in my opinion. 

The way the actual Hindenburg collapses from the rear - following initial flash - and angles backward at nearly 90 degrees allowing the flame propagation to climb upwards, laterally through the axis of the airship, naturally accelerates the flames.

Mythbusters should have executed the experiment emulating conditions more accurately, namely;
1. the nature of the initial flash, 
2. pressurized gases in the airship - equivalent to that required to provide lift, 
3. the rear collapse and change in angle of the ship as it burned and 
4. several other factors which should probably be considered. 

Unfortunately, the oxygen-filled example will never be a feasible comparison because no amount of air pressure will create lift.

An additional test case really should have been an air-ship using helium, just to see what the result would have been with a know &#039;less flammable&#039; gas medium.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hindenburg:</p>
<p>this myth is definitely not busted in my opinion. </p>
<p>The way the actual Hindenburg collapses from the rear &#8211; following initial flash &#8211; and angles backward at nearly 90 degrees allowing the flame propagation to climb upwards, laterally through the axis of the airship, naturally accelerates the flames.</p>
<p>Mythbusters should have executed the experiment emulating conditions more accurately, namely;<br />
1. the nature of the initial flash,<br />
2. pressurized gases in the airship &#8211; equivalent to that required to provide lift,<br />
3. the rear collapse and change in angle of the ship as it burned and<br />
4. several other factors which should probably be considered. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, the oxygen-filled example will never be a feasible comparison because no amount of air pressure will create lift.</p>
<p>An additional test case really should have been an air-ship using helium, just to see what the result would have been with a know &#8216;less flammable&#8217; gas medium.</p>
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		<title>By: Scotty Leach</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode70/comment-page-1#comment-7722</link>
		<dc:creator>Scotty Leach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 08:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Crocodile segment.
Myth should not be considered &quot;Busted&quot;. The Johnsons Creek crocodile that they used is non agressive and not known to attack humans. Now if they had used the much nastier and bigger salt water croc, we could have had a much different result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Crocodile segment.<br />
Myth should not be considered &#8220;Busted&#8221;. The Johnsons Creek crocodile that they used is non agressive and not known to attack humans. Now if they had used the much nastier and bigger salt water croc, we could have had a much different result.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode70/comment-page-1#comment-7430</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 00:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You see, the problem is that the skin couldn&#039;t have been ignited by a static spark. Addison Bain cheated by igniting the skin with a continuous spark; in other documentaries he used an open flame.

It would be better if Mythbusters used an electrical machine (such as a Tesla coil) and gave a brief zap and see if the skin ignites (hydrogen would ignite with such conditions).

The skin was however, a very poor electrical conductor and German scientists found out that the spark could jump right through it and ignite leaking hydrogen. (Bain claims that they found out the fabric itself was flammable). Thus the fabric was still to blame for the disaster as it caused the spark to ignite the hydrogen, but had it not been hydrogen, there would have been no ignition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see, the problem is that the skin couldn&#8217;t have been ignited by a static spark. Addison Bain cheated by igniting the skin with a continuous spark; in other documentaries he used an open flame.</p>
<p>It would be better if Mythbusters used an electrical machine (such as a Tesla coil) and gave a brief zap and see if the skin ignites (hydrogen would ignite with such conditions).</p>
<p>The skin was however, a very poor electrical conductor and German scientists found out that the spark could jump right through it and ignite leaking hydrogen. (Bain claims that they found out the fabric itself was flammable). Thus the fabric was still to blame for the disaster as it caused the spark to ignite the hydrogen, but had it not been hydrogen, there would have been no ignition.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode70/comment-page-1#comment-7404</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hindenburg was a fantastic zeppelin but the tragic explosion due to the skin oh the ship. It was the largest German Airship ever!! The skin of the ship made out of rocket fuel and caught on fire after a spark ignited it. Then, do to the highly flammable hydrogen caused the zeppelin it engulf in flames and burn up in 35 seconds. There were 96 people aboard including passengers and crew members. Only 36 of them died but most of them were the crew members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hindenburg was a fantastic zeppelin but the tragic explosion due to the skin oh the ship. It was the largest German Airship ever!! The skin of the ship made out of rocket fuel and caught on fire after a spark ignited it. Then, do to the highly flammable hydrogen caused the zeppelin it engulf in flames and burn up in 35 seconds. There were 96 people aboard including passengers and crew members. Only 36 of them died but most of them were the crew members.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode70/comment-page-1#comment-7222</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 05:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just watched the TV version (again) and I believe it was not conclusive.   I think a bullet was fired from the ground.  After all the intensive investigations the was no mention of a broken cable found that could have caused the Airship&#039;s failure.
   I have watched several docos about this and never seen a broken cable.  The aluminium frame would have buckled before the steel cable broke. 
   I think an anti NAZI shot the ship,  with or with out the intention of bringing it down. 
   Whether it was flamable dope or dope, ignition by spark or static, sabotage or prank gone wrong, this was the work of a coward who did not come forward.   A new investigation is needed because the history is not sure and is changing.
   I have not seen the Mythbusters episode about the Hindenburg but I would like to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just watched the TV version (again) and I believe it was not conclusive.   I think a bullet was fired from the ground.  After all the intensive investigations the was no mention of a broken cable found that could have caused the Airship&#8217;s failure.<br />
   I have watched several docos about this and never seen a broken cable.  The aluminium frame would have buckled before the steel cable broke.<br />
   I think an anti NAZI shot the ship,  with or with out the intention of bringing it down.<br />
   Whether it was flamable dope or dope, ignition by spark or static, sabotage or prank gone wrong, this was the work of a coward who did not come forward.   A new investigation is needed because the history is not sure and is changing.<br />
   I have not seen the Mythbusters episode about the Hindenburg but I would like to.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode70/comment-page-1#comment-6992</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 19:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MB burned pure H in a very rich flame (too little air mixed in) and it was orange. Watch the episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MB burned pure H in a very rich flame (too little air mixed in) and it was orange. Watch the episode.</p>
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		<title>By: max edison</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode70/comment-page-1#comment-6978</link>
		<dc:creator>max edison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eyewitnesses to the Hindenburg reported an orange flame - H burns blue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eyewitnesses to the Hindenburg reported an orange flame &#8211; H burns blue.</p>
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		<title>By: Wynyard</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode70/comment-page-1#comment-6099</link>
		<dc:creator>Wynyard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didn&#039;t they test with no paint and hydrogen as well, then we would get a true comparison. What a shame, I thought they were going to for a minute... but no. So we don&#039;t really know anything from this experiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t they test with no paint and hydrogen as well, then we would get a true comparison. What a shame, I thought they were going to for a minute&#8230; but no. So we don&#8217;t really know anything from this experiment.</p>
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		<title>By: Seekee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seekee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just watched this episode again, the experiment was done in a enclosed space, was there any wind on the day the hindenburg went down and could this be an attributing factor on the burn rate. Fire needs fuel + oxygen, the experiment is biased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just watched this episode again, the experiment was done in a enclosed space, was there any wind on the day the hindenburg went down and could this be an attributing factor on the burn rate. Fire needs fuel + oxygen, the experiment is biased.</p>
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