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	<title>Comments on: Episode 54: Crimes and Myth-Demeanors 1: Great Hollywood Heists</title>
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		<title>By: blank</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 06:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The method of climbing he duct is irrelevant. Any pressure on the duct work will cause he metal to flex and make noise. It won&#039;t wake you from a sound sleep, but anyone nearby is going to notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The method of climbing he duct is irrelevant. Any pressure on the duct work will cause he metal to flex and make noise. It won&#8217;t wake you from a sound sleep, but anyone nearby is going to notice.</p>
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		<title>By: Busted??</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode54/comment-page-1#comment-12764</link>
		<dc:creator>Busted??</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Growing up, I used to love watching this show... Now what they try to pass off as science makes me sick...

It&#039;s been pointed out already, but in this episode in particular, they lacked expertise when it came to every single challenge. Their scientific method would also claim that since neither Adam or Jamie can run 100m in under 10s, any &quot;myths&quot; saying so must be wrong and busted.

Noisy magnets? Use electromagnets

Noisy suction cups? Being unco isn&#039;t a scientific variable. I personally saw it as plausible apart from the fact that Adam has no real upper body strength and control over his decent.

Cosmetic Powder? Once again, proved plausible. The error was with Kari&#039;s technique. Furthermore, with IR goggles, powder would work just as well (scatters light into goggles)

Night vision goggles? I&#039;m lacking knowledge in this department, but I&#039;m led to believe that NV goggles would intensive the scattered light from the lasers (Similar principles to above).

Laser Replacement? Too difficult in real world situations? Subjective opinion, which is wrong from the get go.

Glass cutting and suction cup? I guess these guys were in the special children&#039;s class while growing up because they kept trying to put a square block in a triangle shaped hole...

Pressure Plate? Although it&#039;s a crude technique, it&#039;s not scientific to rule out the myth because the cast weren&#039;t skilled enough to prove it possible.

Cracking Safe? Unskilled staff, blah blah, same fallacy once again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growing up, I used to love watching this show&#8230; Now what they try to pass off as science makes me sick&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s been pointed out already, but in this episode in particular, they lacked expertise when it came to every single challenge. Their scientific method would also claim that since neither Adam or Jamie can run 100m in under 10s, any &#8220;myths&#8221; saying so must be wrong and busted.</p>
<p>Noisy magnets? Use electromagnets</p>
<p>Noisy suction cups? Being unco isn&#8217;t a scientific variable. I personally saw it as plausible apart from the fact that Adam has no real upper body strength and control over his decent.</p>
<p>Cosmetic Powder? Once again, proved plausible. The error was with Kari&#8217;s technique. Furthermore, with IR goggles, powder would work just as well (scatters light into goggles)</p>
<p>Night vision goggles? I&#8217;m lacking knowledge in this department, but I&#8217;m led to believe that NV goggles would intensive the scattered light from the lasers (Similar principles to above).</p>
<p>Laser Replacement? Too difficult in real world situations? Subjective opinion, which is wrong from the get go.</p>
<p>Glass cutting and suction cup? I guess these guys were in the special children&#8217;s class while growing up because they kept trying to put a square block in a triangle shaped hole&#8230;</p>
<p>Pressure Plate? Although it&#8217;s a crude technique, it&#8217;s not scientific to rule out the myth because the cast weren&#8217;t skilled enough to prove it possible.</p>
<p>Cracking Safe? Unskilled staff, blah blah, same fallacy once again.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode54/comment-page-1#comment-11202</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 00:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Climbing shoes would have made quietly scaling that duct trivial.</description>
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		<title>By: well-duh</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode54/comment-page-1#comment-10526</link>
		<dc:creator>well-duh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 20:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course if Mythbusters had done the basic stuff right...then they would have gotten to more interesting problems like laminated or thick (1/2&quot;) tempered glass. Seem to remember watching the galss installers using tuned ultrasonics to break the thick glass circles free. Also comment that you had to be careful as wrong frequency would shatter whole pane. Guess experience lets you guess about what frequency to start tuning up or down from based on thickness, type glass and size of whole. Pretty sure  you had to attach transducer to circle to be cut free in order minimize problems. Don&#039;t remember what was said about doing laminated glass from one side. Maybe you cut outer layer then melt it free then scrap to free cutting of inner layer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course if Mythbusters had done the basic stuff right&#8230;then they would have gotten to more interesting problems like laminated or thick (1/2&#8243;) tempered glass. Seem to remember watching the galss installers using tuned ultrasonics to break the thick glass circles free. Also comment that you had to be careful as wrong frequency would shatter whole pane. Guess experience lets you guess about what frequency to start tuning up or down from based on thickness, type glass and size of whole. Pretty sure  you had to attach transducer to circle to be cut free in order minimize problems. Don&#8217;t remember what was said about doing laminated glass from one side. Maybe you cut outer layer then melt it free then scrap to free cutting of inner layer.</p>
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		<title>By: well-duh</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode54/comment-page-1#comment-10525</link>
		<dc:creator>well-duh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 20:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Mythbusters really embarrassed themselves with the glass cutting. Those were all COMMON glass cutting techniques done WRONG -- not high tech burglary specific. Maybe they should have done an Internet search on topic or better yet visited a glass cutting expert.

#1 Why did Mythbusters try to suck the small glass circle out with huge suction cup? stupid.

The movies correctly show that you cut the circle around a smaller suction cup or otherwise attach only to the circle to be removed. The suction handle is only to keep the cut section from falling and not to break the scored section free by suction.

Movies usually omit the part where you tap or press at small points around the edge of the circle to break it the rest the way through. I suspect you could use a wooden or rubber covered steel mini-mallet to tap the glass free more silently.

It is however sometimes difficult to break out circle intact. Glass breaks more easily and cleanly along straight lines. Sometimes professionals will attach smaller suction cups yet then score pie slices or chords then break out 3-4 sections of circle. 

#2 Glass drills are not just ordinary drills although experts might get away with improvisation. The key thing is that the drill needs dampening mechanism to prevent shattering the glass. Vibration is bad. 

Watch the UTube video with guy using glass keyhole saw on fish tank. Note that even with actual glass drill you usually use a wooden block to hold the bit in place and give further dampening. There the drill bit appears to have a nylon damper in the center of the key drill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Mythbusters really embarrassed themselves with the glass cutting. Those were all COMMON glass cutting techniques done WRONG &#8212; not high tech burglary specific. Maybe they should have done an Internet search on topic or better yet visited a glass cutting expert.</p>
<p>#1 Why did Mythbusters try to suck the small glass circle out with huge suction cup? stupid.</p>
<p>The movies correctly show that you cut the circle around a smaller suction cup or otherwise attach only to the circle to be removed. The suction handle is only to keep the cut section from falling and not to break the scored section free by suction.</p>
<p>Movies usually omit the part where you tap or press at small points around the edge of the circle to break it the rest the way through. I suspect you could use a wooden or rubber covered steel mini-mallet to tap the glass free more silently.</p>
<p>It is however sometimes difficult to break out circle intact. Glass breaks more easily and cleanly along straight lines. Sometimes professionals will attach smaller suction cups yet then score pie slices or chords then break out 3-4 sections of circle. </p>
<p>#2 Glass drills are not just ordinary drills although experts might get away with improvisation. The key thing is that the drill needs dampening mechanism to prevent shattering the glass. Vibration is bad. </p>
<p>Watch the UTube video with guy using glass keyhole saw on fish tank. Note that even with actual glass drill you usually use a wooden block to hold the bit in place and give further dampening. There the drill bit appears to have a nylon damper in the center of the key drill.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode54/comment-page-1#comment-9774</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 22:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only problem with this is that even if you did come up with such a rig (including a mobile power supply that supplies enough current and 120 volts to fully power the electromagnetic lock), while they might hold your weight, you would need a separate button for each lock to remain stealthy.  If you have one button controlling 4 locks (one on each hand and foot), then while you could get maybe two magnets to contact before turning them on (just hands or just legs), the other magnets would make a loud bang when they snap onto the duct, just like the magnetic lock for the fire exit near my dorm room does when it engages onto the armature plate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only problem with this is that even if you did come up with such a rig (including a mobile power supply that supplies enough current and 120 volts to fully power the electromagnetic lock), while they might hold your weight, you would need a separate button for each lock to remain stealthy.  If you have one button controlling 4 locks (one on each hand and foot), then while you could get maybe two magnets to contact before turning them on (just hands or just legs), the other magnets would make a loud bang when they snap onto the duct, just like the magnetic lock for the fire exit near my dorm room does when it engages onto the armature plate.</p>
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		<title>By: Gakl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gakl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you still wont be able to see the laser beams. you can not see light unless it directly hits your eyes. if you point the remote at the camera, sure. but it wont work if you point it anywhere else. laser beams are concentrated light directed in the same direction. this light will not suddenly jump sideways unless something changes the path of the light significantly. no camera or eyewear will do this, no matter what Dayne says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you still wont be able to see the laser beams. you can not see light unless it directly hits your eyes. if you point the remote at the camera, sure. but it wont work if you point it anywhere else. laser beams are concentrated light directed in the same direction. this light will not suddenly jump sideways unless something changes the path of the light significantly. no camera or eyewear will do this, no matter what Dayne says.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can surreptitiously scale an air duct by using a system of magnets.&quot;Busted.&quot;I think this is possible, All u need is to customise a door magnetic look to handles with a button to lock and unlock. It would support your weight and let you sneak up as quiet as you like. I think they should redo this episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can surreptitiously scale an air duct by using a system of magnets.&#8221;Busted.&#8221;I think this is possible, All u need is to customise a door magnetic look to handles with a button to lock and unlock. It would support your weight and let you sneak up as quiet as you like. I think they should redo this episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 04:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for using suction cups to scale a skyscraper, it&#039;s absurd that these guys only say it&#039;s &quot;PLAUSIBLE&quot;.

It&#039;s already been done several times in the eighties, by Dan Goodwin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for using suction cups to scale a skyscraper, it&#8217;s absurd that these guys only say it&#8217;s &#8220;PLAUSIBLE&#8221;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s already been done several times in the eighties, by Dan Goodwin.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Missed the episode. I am interested though in using laser trip beams in a perimeter security system. However, I haven&#039;t been able to find anything suitable on the internet. Can anybody direct me to a product or system? Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missed the episode. I am interested though in using laser trip beams in a perimeter security system. However, I haven&#8217;t been able to find anything suitable on the internet. Can anybody direct me to a product or system? Thanks.</p>
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