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		<title>By: Panzer Divisions, Afrika Korps, Waffen SS, Blitzkrieg: Why Americans idolize the German war machine - World War II Forums</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode50/comment-page-1#comment-7425</link>
		<dc:creator>Panzer Divisions, Afrika Korps, Waffen SS, Blitzkrieg: Why Americans idolize the German war machine - World War II Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fatally injured. To date, this is the only myth to receive all three ratings at the same time.    MythBusters Episode 50: Bullets Fired Up  I know in Philadelphia a few years ago, a young man was seriously wounded with a traumatic brain [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fatally injured. To date, this is the only myth to receive all three ratings at the same time.    MythBusters Episode 50: Bullets Fired Up  I know in Philadelphia a few years ago, a young man was seriously wounded with a traumatic brain [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode50/comment-page-1#comment-7150</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given this is the only myth to have all 3 ratings shouldn&#039;t it be updated?  I see the above indication that an angle less than 83% can be lethal.  

I imagine that bullets with a higher ballistic coefficient (more aerodynamic) are more likely to maintain the energy and rotation with which they were &quot;launched&quot;.  The lethal angle for pistols and rifles is probably different.

Also, how heavy does something have to be before it becomes lethal at terminal velocity in general?  Pennies (or uncased bullets) dropped off the empire state building are apparently not lethal.  Bricks would be a different story.

Bullet size varies a lot however and can range from under 3 grams to over 40 grams.  A 40 gram metal object dropped from the empire state building (or fired vertically from a gun) is much more likely to cause enough blunt force trauma to kill even if only at its terminal velocity.

Can we get a myth busters update?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given this is the only myth to have all 3 ratings shouldn&#8217;t it be updated?  I see the above indication that an angle less than 83% can be lethal.  </p>
<p>I imagine that bullets with a higher ballistic coefficient (more aerodynamic) are more likely to maintain the energy and rotation with which they were &#8220;launched&#8221;.  The lethal angle for pistols and rifles is probably different.</p>
<p>Also, how heavy does something have to be before it becomes lethal at terminal velocity in general?  Pennies (or uncased bullets) dropped off the empire state building are apparently not lethal.  Bricks would be a different story.</p>
<p>Bullet size varies a lot however and can range from under 3 grams to over 40 grams.  A 40 gram metal object dropped from the empire state building (or fired vertically from a gun) is much more likely to cause enough blunt force trauma to kill even if only at its terminal velocity.</p>
<p>Can we get a myth busters update?</p>
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		<title>By: Boy killed by a bullet fired up to three miles a way - Page 3 - TeakDoor.com - The Thailand Forum</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode50/comment-page-1#comment-7075</link>
		<dc:creator>Boy killed by a bullet fired up to three miles a way - Page 3 - TeakDoor.com - The Thailand Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 02:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Did anybody watch this episode of Mythbusters?   MythBusters Episode 50: Bullets Fired Up [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode50/comment-page-1#comment-7060</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at the German movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZDS_2ooqpU   (thanks Dirk).
You can see the trajectory the fired bullet travels (followed by radar) at 2:49 minutes.
Using some goniometric calculations it can be seen that the bullet was almost fired straight up (angle around 83 degrees) with a speed of 1500 meters per second and falls downward with a final angle of around 63 degrees with a speed of 350 meters per second. That is much slower but still lethal. The distance the bullet travels upward is around 1000 meters. On the same picture the horizontal distance can be measured as around 800 meters. That&#039;s a lot. 

See the movie around 4 minutes. A bullet specially prepared to be fired with low speed still penetrates a block of gelatine (resembling a body) with a distance of around 0.3 meters. 
A block of gelatine prepared with a shield on its side (to resemble the skull) is still penetrated with a distance of estimated 0.1 meters. 

That&#039;s enough to kill a man and surely enough to kill a child.

Lowering the angle of the shot to around 60 degrees will result in a much larger distance travelled, a few kilometers could even be possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at the German movie <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZDS_2ooqpU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZDS_2ooqpU</a>   (thanks Dirk).<br />
You can see the trajectory the fired bullet travels (followed by radar) at 2:49 minutes.<br />
Using some goniometric calculations it can be seen that the bullet was almost fired straight up (angle around 83 degrees) with a speed of 1500 meters per second and falls downward with a final angle of around 63 degrees with a speed of 350 meters per second. That is much slower but still lethal. The distance the bullet travels upward is around 1000 meters. On the same picture the horizontal distance can be measured as around 800 meters. That&#8217;s a lot. </p>
<p>See the movie around 4 minutes. A bullet specially prepared to be fired with low speed still penetrates a block of gelatine (resembling a body) with a distance of around 0.3 meters.<br />
A block of gelatine prepared with a shield on its side (to resemble the skull) is still penetrated with a distance of estimated 0.1 meters. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s enough to kill a man and surely enough to kill a child.</p>
<p>Lowering the angle of the shot to around 60 degrees will result in a much larger distance travelled, a few kilometers could even be possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode50/comment-page-1#comment-7015</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 05:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To even mention that in the instance of firearms fired at a precisely vertical angle, terminal velocity being less than lethal on impact is irresponsible. To describe celebratory gunfire deaths as “busted” even though mythbuster’s also apparently called them plausible and confirmed is careless. The precisely vertical scenario is not just extremely difficult but so close to impossible that to reference the myth as busted is, reckless. The  deaths and injuries on the other hand are well known and documented way beyond your two people who had been injured by falling bullets, one of them fatally injured. 
C’mon where did you look?

The International Action Network on Small Arms has a site at http://www.iansa.org/documents/Aerial07-08.pdf which documents; Children and adults killed and wounded by celebratory gunfire
Total: 15 deaths and 77 injuries in 13 countries

In Puerto Rico, where such celebratory actions are common, news media reports have indicated that approximately two persons die and an estimated 25 more are injured each year from celebratory gunfire on New Year&#039;s Eve. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15614232

Spent bullets and their injuries: the result of firing weapons into the sky.
Ordog GJ, Dornhoffer P, Ackroyd G, Wasserberger J, Bishop M, Shoemaker W, Balasubramanium S.

Department of Emergency Medicine, King/Drew-UCLA Medical Center 90059
People often celebrate holidays by firing guns into the air without realizing that this can cause serious injury or death. The present study identified 118 patients treated since 1985 who were hit with spent bullets. Most (77%) were hit in the head. The mortality rate was 32%, which is significantly higher than for all gunshot wound victims in general seen at the same medical center. Laws have been enacted to help prevent people shooting into the sky, but more education and enforcement are required to prevent these serious and preventable injuries. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7996596?ordinalpos=7&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To even mention that in the instance of firearms fired at a precisely vertical angle, terminal velocity being less than lethal on impact is irresponsible. To describe celebratory gunfire deaths as “busted” even though mythbuster’s also apparently called them plausible and confirmed is careless. The precisely vertical scenario is not just extremely difficult but so close to impossible that to reference the myth as busted is, reckless. The  deaths and injuries on the other hand are well known and documented way beyond your two people who had been injured by falling bullets, one of them fatally injured.<br />
C’mon where did you look?</p>
<p>The International Action Network on Small Arms has a site at <a href="http://www.iansa.org/documents/Aerial07-08.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.iansa.org/documents/Aerial07-08.pdf</a> which documents; Children and adults killed and wounded by celebratory gunfire<br />
Total: 15 deaths and 77 injuries in 13 countries</p>
<p>In Puerto Rico, where such celebratory actions are common, news media reports have indicated that approximately two persons die and an estimated 25 more are injured each year from celebratory gunfire on New Year&#8217;s Eve. <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15614232" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15614232</a></p>
<p>Spent bullets and their injuries: the result of firing weapons into the sky.<br />
Ordog GJ, Dornhoffer P, Ackroyd G, Wasserberger J, Bishop M, Shoemaker W, Balasubramanium S.</p>
<p>Department of Emergency Medicine, King/Drew-UCLA Medical Center 90059<br />
People often celebrate holidays by firing guns into the air without realizing that this can cause serious injury or death. The present study identified 118 patients treated since 1985 who were hit with spent bullets. Most (77%) were hit in the head. The mortality rate was 32%, which is significantly higher than for all gunshot wound victims in general seen at the same medical center. Laws have been enacted to help prevent people shooting into the sky, but more education and enforcement are required to prevent these serious and preventable injuries. <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7996596?ordinalpos=7&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7996596?ordinalpos=7&amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ballistic vs. free fall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ballistic vs. free fall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 17:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A falling bullet cannot kill you, provided that it is falling only.  It&#039;s terminal velocity will be about 120 MPH.  A bullet on a ballistic trajectory still maintains a significant percentage of force from the propellent and can easily kill.  that why the myth is busted, plausible and confirmed...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A falling bullet cannot kill you, provided that it is falling only.  It&#8217;s terminal velocity will be about 120 MPH.  A bullet on a ballistic trajectory still maintains a significant percentage of force from the propellent and can easily kill.  that why the myth is busted, plausible and confirmed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: the boss</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode50/comment-page-1#comment-6823</link>
		<dc:creator>the boss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I,ve lived in LA. all my live and I,ve heard time and time again, of people in New Orleans that have DIED vary often. This is due to people shooting their pistoles (guns) into the sky and the bullet falling back to earth kills. Several people have DIED from this act NOT JUST 1 or 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I,ve lived in LA. all my live and I,ve heard time and time again, of people in New Orleans that have DIED vary often. This is due to people shooting their pistoles (guns) into the sky and the bullet falling back to earth kills. Several people have DIED from this act NOT JUST 1 or 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Dutchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dutchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 09:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two weeks ago, a 19-year-old boy was killed during a beach party, when the mob turned on the police. After research, they now say that the boy was killed by a police bullet after a warningshot had been fired. As far as I know, Dutch police uses Walther P5. Possible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two weeks ago, a 19-year-old boy was killed during a beach party, when the mob turned on the police. After research, they now say that the boy was killed by a police bullet after a warningshot had been fired. As far as I know, Dutch police uses Walther P5. Possible?</p>
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		<title>By: AndyB</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode50/comment-page-1#comment-5883</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charcoal Filtered Vodka...
Improvement IS possible... it just requires use of ACTIVATED charcoal, and depends upon the impurities present in the first place... Requires more comprehensive science to determone the constituents of cheap vodka, those removable by activated charcoal and which vodkas have such a composition.
I advise use of proper pressurised liquid chromatography in a good lab, and the type of activated charcoal actually used by vodka companies... Personally I consider this confirmed by the fact that thi IS used by Vodka companies ... it&#039;s not a cheap process so they&#039;d not do it purely for the gimmick!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charcoal Filtered Vodka&#8230;<br />
Improvement IS possible&#8230; it just requires use of ACTIVATED charcoal, and depends upon the impurities present in the first place&#8230; Requires more comprehensive science to determone the constituents of cheap vodka, those removable by activated charcoal and which vodkas have such a composition.<br />
I advise use of proper pressurised liquid chromatography in a good lab, and the type of activated charcoal actually used by vodka companies&#8230; Personally I consider this confirmed by the fact that thi IS used by Vodka companies &#8230; it&#8217;s not a cheap process so they&#8217;d not do it purely for the gimmick!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ruby</title>
		<link>http://mythbustersresults.com/episode50/comment-page-1#comment-5682</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KILLING ODORS--Peroxide,bakesoda etc. Did anyone saw that show ?</description>
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